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How does the writing system 12480 work?

I've been trying to come up with a language for a science fiction book, and I came across 12480, which I think would make a good base for the language. The only problem is, I'd like a general idea of ...
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Is there a good reason not to reverse the letters 𐑓 and 𐑝 in Shavian?

In the Shavian alphabet, the letter 𐑓 makes an f sound and 𐑝 makes a "v" sound. It seems reasonable that these two letters should be reversed, since 𐑝 looks like an f. To stay consistent ...
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A conlang with a 'compressed' writing system?

I'm making this since now I think an 'abjad' isn't what I actually had in mind. I was thinking of a system where the vowels don't have to be written, because they're always obvious. Essentially, my ...
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Since languages that use OSV/OVS word order normally have short sentences, what would this mean for creating a conlang that uses OVS/OSV word order?

About OVS word order So recently I was reading up a bit on word orders in languages when I came across this Wikipedia article about OVS word order. Now, this is what the Wikipedia article says about ...
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Challenge: compress all of English into the smallest symbol set

Imagine mapping English to short codes, like “a”, “aa”, “abc”, “cde”, separated by spaces. How would you do it? In my opinion, this is very mathematical: because combinations of any finite alphabet ...
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Generate random alphabet or glyphs?

Is there a good program for generating a new alphabet or set of glyphs? I found this which is a good start: https://github.com/hmltn2/glyphgen/blob/master/script.js https://undefinist.com/glyphgen/ I ...
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How do mora-timed languages work?

So I was researching a bit on different types of languages, mainly languages from Eastern Asia, because those seemed to have been very intriguing to me, when I came across Japanese. Now, here's what ...
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How to romanize velarization, palatalization, and labialization?

I started a conlang inspired by Marshallese and Navajo, and have taken several labialized, palatalized, and velarized consonants from them. However, I am unsure how to romanize these consonants.
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Denoting arbitrary ligatures when transcribing my script to Latin

I'm working on a written language where ligatures are important. Pretty much any letter could be joined to any other, and doing so could change the meaning of the word. Too facilitate writing about ...
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How should I define the lexicographic order for my conlang?

Though I've had a tough time choosing the phonology and the orthography of my conlang, I think I've finally confirmed it: 12 consonants, 10 vowels, Cyrillic script. The consonants are: Пп for [p] Тт ...
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What uncommon letters are there? [closed]

I have made an alphabet, but I think that I need to add more letters. I don't want to invent random letters. Is there a letter that doesn't exist in most other languages? My language's alphabet has 16 ...
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How to Indicate Idea Flow

Are there any other schemes to indicate the flow of words/thoughts in writing? (Outside of what I have researched.) I am specifically asking about how languages present complete grammatical statements ...
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Creation of Alphabets

If the creation of languages ​​is called language invention what is the creation of writing systems called? I don't think it's called Lettering because when I search for that on the net, I see that ...
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What glyph to pick from alternatives in Kēlen script?

The Kēlen alphabet as given on https://www.terjemar.net/kelen/writing.php shows variants for some letters. Here is an example: Are there rules on when to pick which form?
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Has anyone made image based languages?

This is my first visit here. I have been writing machine/computer languages for about 8 years now. I am completely self taught and use my own tools. I have many languages that I have completed that ...
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Is Russian a constructed language?

It is regulated directively by authorities even more strictly than programming languages! E.g. During the reform of 1918 they just forbade letter Ъ аnd removed all those letters! In some cases letter ...
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Which character is best to use for a schwa? Ь or Ъ?

Cyrillic for English - (Сарилик фоьр Иңглиш) is an adapted Cyrillic orthography to write English using ь as schwa, so 'sofa' would be written 'соьфь'. Does ь make sense as a schwa or is ъ better? The ...
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How do you determine a New Letter's sound?

I'm trying to create a new language, but I need some advice. How do you determine what a new letter sounds like? Is there a pattern, or do I just make it up?
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Has anybody created an Arabic inspired shorthand for english?

I'm thinking of a system where all fricatives look similar to each other, all plosives look similar, etc; the same base shape could be used for similar sounds using the dots placed above/below letters ...
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Can entire words be silent?

Most people will be familiar with the idea that naturalistic spelling can be tricky. Some examples of natlangs with annoying spelling that come to mind are English ("ough" can be pronounced /...
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How to distinguish [i] from [iː] in Cyrillic

Renglish/Рэнглиш (not mine) is an adaptation of Cyrillic for English. Most of the sounds seem ok, but how would you normally differentiate [i] in bit from the [iː] in beet using Cyrillic or would they ...
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What are resources for conlangers designing a knot writing?

I have not encountered many con-scripts encoding information in knots, rather than by marking flat media. I imagine that many conlangers would enjoy the inspiration of Andean khipus, which, going back ...
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How can I format a dictionary that mixes vertical and horizontal scripts?

My conlang Atili is written in a vertical script. I'm having a hard time trying to imagine how to write out words in the Atili script within my dictionary. This is important because Atili spelling is ...
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How can I avoid "relexing" punctuation?

I'm trying to design a conscript for my conlang Atili and would like to create punctuation in order to deliminate sentences and transcribe limited prosody. However, I don't just want to create new ...
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How to choose a writing system for a conlang?

When one creates a conlang, it notionally has its own writing system (although in many cases actually working out the writing system is ignored, and everything is simply done in transliteration). If ...
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what real world language does this look like?

This isn't really about a conlang, it's an alternative orthography but I didn't know where else to ask it. I found an alternative orthography for english called 'EBEO'(Even Better English Orthography)...
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Could you have a language with only three words?

Don't immediately dismiss this! Just give me a moment to explain and you might realize it's an idea that might have merit, especially considering the question title is a little misleading. Also, I'm ...
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Simplified Version of IPA?

In IPA, the sounds of many symbols are so close that they are indistinguishable to me! For example, [bʊk], [ɓʊk], or [βʊk]. Even though they do have some minor differences, but all a listener like me ...
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International Language [closed]

I was reading International Auxiliary Language, but I don't like their setups. Because, mostly, they use Latin alphabets! And that, my friends, cause confusions! No matter what the letter was ...
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Are there any Conlangs using Chinese characters?

The Chinese character system is one that is universal to many Chinese dialects. Two people can pronounce the same character in two different ways, but when writing to each other it is intelligible. ...
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Are there any constructed languages designed with a constructed script, both aiming to be international and auxiliary?

Hangul is a beautiful constructed script, used to write the natural languages of Korean, Jeju, Hokkien, and Cia-Cia, perhaps others. The shape of the letters mimic the shape of the mouth, and a ...
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Is there a toki pona hieroglyphics font?

For the toki pona language there is a writing system where each word is replaced by a single logogram or hieroglyph. There is also a web-based converter which allows you to enter a text in toki pona ...
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How to describe a purely symbolic writing system?

Before I jump headlong into constructing a language, I'd like to do some research and see what others have done before me and learn from their experiences/mistakes. The keywords I'm currently using ...
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Are there any "unspeakable" languages?

Sorry, my title is slightly misleading; what I'm after is more like a written language that doesn't have its roots in spoken language, and has no definitive translation into speech, but is none-the-...
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Organizing a lexicon in a logographic writing system

A little background before my question: I am an amateur in mid-development of a logographic writing system, not necessarily a whole language with phonetics. As I develop, I don't so much care about ...
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Examples of the combination of 2 independent symbolic scripts

I am looking for examples real or con, of two foreign symbolic scripts being made into a hybrid language/script. In my case I wish to see about making a hybrid 15th century Aztec-Chinese Hybrid ...
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I'm constructing a language with some rather hard-to-produce symbols. Computer or paper?

My constructed language has 26 English letters and 30 special characters (plus four different accent marks.) The characters are slightly abstract. The closest I've gotten to producing them is with ...
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Is there any importance of "dots" while constructing alphabets for a language?

In English, there is a little dot over small letters of i and j. I am not sure what that dot signifies to - pronunciation or sound. In Gujarati, Hindi and Sanskrit languages, there happens to be dot ...
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Finding inspiration for letter forms?

I believe I've mentioned before on here how I struggle to come up with forms for letters. I've tried to solve this by looking at other systems. Despite the diversity in our world, I've found it ...
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Is there a stroke order for any of the Klingon alphabets?

Is there an order in which you write the strokes making up a letter belonging to the Klingon alphabet (apart from the Latin alphabet)? Are letters from Klingon alphabets intended to be written ...
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Is there a middle-written language?

Real languages I am aware of several types of writing systems. The first one would be left to right and a prime example is English and also most of other languages, no matter if they use letters or ...
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Is any of the Wakandan writing in Black Panther used for something other than English?

For the film Black Panther production designer Hannah Beachler created a Wakandan writing system partially based on real African writing systems. Well that's what this and other news articles say, but ...
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What do double consonants specify in Esperanto?

The Esperanto word for 'Finland' is Finnlando. What does the doubled consonant specify? The Esperanto alphabet is phonemic. Why are there two consonants? Is it gemination (which doesn't appear often ...
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How to model the change of script over time

I want two languages to share a root but I want them to look unrecognizable written down (with the original language having a written form, so not independently created writing systems). Are there any ...
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Is there a specific term for a constructed writing system purportedly used for a conlang but actually for a natlang?

Many constructed writing systems are purportedly used to write conlangs, but in reality are actually used to write English or another natlang. For example, omniglot.com says that Kryptonian is "a ...
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Mixed writing systems - which words should have their own symbols?

Assume that a conlang is written partially with an alphabet and partially with pictograms. The idea is to have something like the Japanese writing system. Does it follows the structure of natlangs ...
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Brahmic conscript with European style [closed]

The scripts of South Asia (i.e. the Indian subcontinent), e.g. Devanagari, and Southeast Asia, e.g. Thai, are almost all derived from the Brahmic script. They show gradual visual relationships and ...
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Klingon: does anyone actually use pIqaD, or is the Latin transliteration sufficient?

Having just started the Duolingo Klingon course, I'm wondering if anybody is using the Klingon writing system (pIqaD) at all, or whether the Latin transliteration is always used? As the characters ...
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Was Tolkien aware of the Voynich manuscript?

Looking at the Tengwar script designed by Tolkien I feel a certain similarity to the unknown script of the Voynich manuscript: Many characters look very similar to others of the same script, and there ...
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With the death of CSUR, has there been any new Unicode proposal for con-scripts?

The CSUR (ConScript Unicode Registry) is — or, rather, with its last update in 2008, was — a project "to coordinate the assignment of blocks out of the Unicode Private Use Area (E000-F8FF and 000F0000-...
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